From: Kenneth G. Cavness (kcavness@proxicom.com) Subject: Re: TAN: Yuck Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.written.robert-jordan Date: 2000-12-12 21:28:47 PST Foolishly giving up the right to remain silent, Mike Kozlowski wrote... > In article , > Kenneth G. Cavness wrote: > >John S. Novak, III wrote... > > > >> And especially given the way the 5-4 split happens, this is probably > >> going to go down in history as one of the most prestige-damaging cases > >> before the Supreme Court since Dred Scott. > > > >Since Dred Scott? I'm not sure even I would go *that* far... > > I would. I wouldn't for the simple reason that Dred Scott *did* put Slavery into the state's hands -- and also basically said that slaves were not human. The Court's decision here may be as misguided as Dred Scott, but in terms of what happened because of it, I doubt that this will be as far-reaching. > It's not as bad as Dred Scott (who, in a little known fact, > later became a Supreme Court justice himself -- you may have seen the > movie based on his life), but it's worse than anything since. Now *that* is cool. I love the irony there. I had no idea. > Desegregation may have been as controversial, but was also clearly correct > in the hindsight of history and was done unanimously. This will not be, > and was not. > > The election's been officially stolen now; in GWB's words on election day, > it was "signed, sealed, and delivered" by a cadre of Bush affiliates who > worked in concert to obstruct justice at every step of the way. (You can > almost picture former President Bush talking to Clarence Thomas upon his > confirmation: "Someday, and that day may never come, I will ask a favor > of you...") It is a disgusting sight and a sad moment for democracy -- > and hopefully one that will be rectified in four years in such a way that > will leave little doubt that further usurpations are not welcome. I wonder how often I'm going to hear this? It's what I think as well, but something tells me that there will be *very* few, if any, politicians who will publicly use those words. I will accept this man (Bush) as my president, but I will *Always* feel that Gore is the man that really won it, and that Bush used the letter of the law to defeat the spirit of the law. I do not envy Bush his next four years. I am glad it's him there though and not Gore; Bush's presidency is so far delegitimized now that it dwarfs any illegitimacy claims on Gore's presidency should the Supreme Court have reversed its stay and allowed the recount to go forward, no matter the Equal Protection claims. -- Kenneth G. Cavness http://stargoat.dynip.com/ (usually) UIN: 3504847, AOL IM: kcavness2