Subject: sa'TAN: The rasfwr-j family v. Re: I read "Why do the Aiel hate AS?" From: Karl-Johan Noren Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.written.robert-jordan Organization: Per lusum et lasciviam In <77vr1v$lig$1@news.cudenver.edu>, FAQ Dowager Erica L. Sadun wrote: > travag@ihug.co.nz (Jon Travaglia) writes: > > >I think I'll be the Grand Vizier, so I can plan to seduce Novak's > >beautiful daughter and inherit the empire. > > [Checking quickly through the rasfwr-j family tree] > And that would be...er...Chad? I think I'll take that as my cue... of course, the tree is somewhat in a state of transition right now, but then it always is, isn't it? And remember, to be part of the family tree, you just have to e-mail me (but note that the satanic newbie-burning rituals, virgin sacrifices are all in the requirements, written in electronic invisible ink). ------------------------------------------------------------ VERSION 4.11: When you thought it couldn't get worse ------------------------------------------------------------ "That's what you get for playing in the shallow end of the Gene Pool." HOUSE OF RASWRJ | | Briggs---Myers PNH---TNH | | -------- | | | Ivis-------Emmet Gabe Myers---Cynthia B. | | | ------------- | | | | McGuffin McGaffin | ---------------------------------------------------- | | | | | Alberto----Erica(FD)+.......Uno.....+Judy---Tom |TeriP---DonH Emma | | | | | | | Due | | | a Nice | | | | | Hot Cup | Tre | | | of Tea & | | | | | a Muffin | Bridget---CD Skogsberg | | | | | Fonda | | | | \-----\ | | | | --------- | | Richard | | | | | | | Neuromancer | | Bob | Cowboy | -------------- | | Hofmann| Rosenfeld | | | | | | | | | | Emma | Clarissa---ToddRose | | Craig---Lara | | Ida | | | | Levin | (1st) | | Vera | GregWelc---Mehgan | | ---------------- | | | | | | | | | | Henrik Neville | |Angela-Brian Michael| | | |Furry |Ritchie Nielsen| | DaveWallOfBooks | | | (m. KM)| | | | | | | Viren---Pam(FQ)-=-Hillyard(LCC) Marconi | | ------------ Crumpet | | | | | | | | | --------- Dot Warner | |Sok-Hyon jesharelah | | | | Marisa | | |Steven | | Darkelf Josh&---Tomei DashWendrzyk | | Scone | | | | | | (m.UE) | Greyelf ------- Abacus | | | | | | | | | | Jiro Sumitomo | | Unbearable Jowett Rouk Eniac | | | | | Lightness | | | |Nellodee---Jiro | | of Elfing | | | | |Protagonist | | | Pax | Vax---PDP/1 | | | | | | | | | |(*)Helmut-----Becky | | | Britannica | | | | | | | | | | | ---------------- | | | Victoria | | | | | | | | | | | | |Bee;---Burr |Betty-Ganger | | ----------- | Timex/ | | |Boop |(now m. | | | Osborne---Sinclair | | | |S. 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Devera | | MarkLoy | | | | Conny | . | | after | Mug Nicholas Janet | | . | | Mark's | Hale Cone | Blunt | . | | tryst w/ | | instrument | Kieron | | Thor S) | | | | | | | | Scary Sporty Posh ------ | | | | | | | | | | --------------- | | | ------------ Steve | | | | | | | | Monahan | Really John Barid | | | James | Big Walter Bel | | | Bremner-----Inigo | Sword Biles | | | | | | | | Mark Looi---Phetsy-=-Phaucet | PaulRaj | | | | | Khangure | Mark Loy---Lara | Rick---Monika | | | | Beaton | Moen | | Khanguroo | ----------------- | --------------------- | | | | | | | | | | | | | Wallaby | | | Kevin | | John Neil Lyman | | | | | | Mooney | | "Logain" Barnes Green | | ------------------ | | | | | Anderson | | | | | | | | | Unnatural | | | Scottina | RyanR.| | Gregg | | Endowments | | Haiku | | | |Winsor | | (m. Scone) | | | The 7 Dwarders | | | | | | | | Epic | | Steven Steven | Raven | Dorit-Magnus | | | | C. O. | | | | Limerick | | | | --------- | | Johnny Rob | | | | | Kantsiper B. Good Smith | | Daniel | | | | | | O. | | Jason Copper | | Sarah | Atkinson Smith | | C. (m. | | | | Tim L) | Wood | | | Smith | ---------------- | | Arrow | | | | | Iron | | Maggie B. | Dave | Smith---Salvatore | (m.KJ) | Rothgery | | | | (m.Laura | --------------------------------- | | P.) | | | | | | | | | Masino Ryan | | Kyle | Mrs. John | K-stein | | | Annette--Dilick | | | | | | Boye'@ | | ------------------ | (m. Helena) | | | | | `--\ | | Wooden Noell Praetorian | Kevin Shawn | Shoes | ,--/ Bartlett---Cady | | | | | Craig | | | | Moe---Berelain(1) | | | | | Average | | ---------------- | | | | | | | | John | | Gaetano | Donal | Bilow | | | Fellows | | | | Rob | Above | | Strong ----------------- | | | | | | | | | | Anton Carolyn---BradJ-=-A spoon | | | | | | FireWalker# Andrea Michelle | --------------- | | | | | | | | | ----------------------------- | Lutefisk | | | | | | | | ----------------------------- | " | | | | | | | | Surstromming | | Jrrrrf! Nathan----Kristi | ? | | | | Lundblad | | | Sauerkraut | | | | | | | ---------- | | | | | | | | | | Nathaniel Dunning | | | | | | | | | Morigan---Hotdog | | | | | | | | | TheFates | | | | | Michael | | Right Cassandra---Kozlowski | | | | | | | ------------------- | | | | | | | | | Drew Tom Helena----Boye' | | | Gillmore York Zeegers | | | | | | | | | | ------------- | | | Rob | | | | | Wrong Parker Bryan | Trojan | | | Ecker | Horse | | Ramar | | | Wright Greased | | | | Lightning | ------------------- | Airplanes | | | | | | | | John | | Rob | This Space Hopkins | Architecture Travolta | | Pfeifer | For Rent BlueJay | | | | | | | | | ShawnRoot Danny---Sandy A. | | | | | | | | | Shaun---Grace | ShawnTree---Saw The Beatles | | | | | | | | | | Bed | | | ---------------- | | Michelle | | | | | | Sofa (m.FireWalker& | | Lacrosse | Norwood | | Andrea) | | Ball | | Chris | | | | | Hammock | | | | | | | | | | Hot | | | | | Sam Chile | | | | | Colt----Pepper Ganth GreyLord | | Marc S. | | | | | | | | | ------- ------------ | | Jesse---Kristian | | | | | | | | \ Bob V. Julie---Tori,,,,,,,Jame---HohnCho | ----------- \ | | | | | | | \ Ketchup--Beer | ---------- | Sling---McIssac Pete \ | | | | | | | \ Ryan ----------- Mark Jamison Anthony | Singapore L. Montrel | Bettens | | | | | | | | | | Barracuda-------------JeffF~ Spiridon David_Cane | Mayo---Tuna Shark | Irwin | | | | | Sandwich BruceRay ---------------------- | | | | | | | ChrisKing The 7 Dwarves Joel Bryan | | | | H. | | | | Lots of Bills Broccoli | | | | | | | | BrianRay JamesBond | | | | | | | Esmeralda---YOU SURE YOU | | | | | WANT TO KNOW? | | | | | | | | DaveHemming----Kate BenRyan | | | | | | | | --------------------- | | | | | | | | | | | | Gregory | | Trina | | | | Yount | | Dykstra | | | | | | | | | | Trond | LongJohn | | Hawing | Silver | | | Mike---Janet | | | ClearingOf Falys| B. Hook | | Throats | | | | | Shawn Erikson | | | C. (m. Bartlett) | | | | | | Trool---Maggie Gautam---Vivienne | | | H. | | | | | | Gina/Billy/Hope---Bo | | | | | ---------------------------------- | | | | | | | | | Thomas | Eric(a) Mike Bracher | | Burke | Saunders H-arbinger Caan | | | | | Rhonda---K'K'Ken | | | Cavness | | ----------------------------- | | | | | | | | | Harsevoort Randy Stuart | Narishma | | | Barber Lamble | | | | | | | | Henschel | Badilotti | | | | | Martha | | Stewart | | | | | Stewardesses | | | | | Stuart Hall | | | | Finn MacCool -------------------------------------- | | | | | | | | | Marti---Jacob Bryon SKWID Sanders | Draconnis----------Carol | | | | | | Bjorn---? | | | | | | Fowl---Bucket O. Chicken (GdL)(4) | | | | | | ---------------------------- Arn Charl | | | | | | | | Howard Keith Jim----Maple Trent-----Titania | | TheDuck Cooke Mansfield|Leaf Goulding | | | | | | | ------------ Helge | | | | | | Calgary James | | Morrison | --------------------------- -------------------- | | | | | | | | Greenbaum Gibbons Gonzalas-Mondoran | Ferguson Khan | | | | | Decline&Fall Uma Thurman---Bollinger Ghengis Simon---AmandaMur! | | | | Yandel ---------------- Kublai | | | | | | | | Jack---Sally | | | | | |Skellington| | | | | -------------- | | | | | | | | | Swist Alison/---Hendrix TeriP This Could Hordes | | | | (m. Don | | Ikeda Giroux Coleman---joy | H.) Be YOU! | | | ------------------------ | | Dan cooler | | | Decimal | Hirpara | | JacobM | | Grampa | thermos | | | Dewey George Kumar | | | | IainBell | Jack---Sally Marlena---Stephano | |Skellington| | | | | Elizabeth---Mikhail Antigone---Doug/----Alison/ (erc) | | | | BruceGarner | | | ------------------------------ --------------- | | | | | | | | Matsumo Finger Jared | FanChang Fowler | JGilliam---Susan | | | | | Thumb Amy---Matthew | Electra---Mmike | | Gray | Hunter | | | | | | Gordan | | | | | | Paul Ward FannieMae ------------------------------- | | | | | | Index Suzanne---Carreiro Tyler JGarner Schnebly David | | Chandler | | Spake GiorgoP | | | Sir Horace ----------------------------------------------- | | | | | | | TheGrandSophy---JimFord Lars Adcox St.Erroneous MarkusW RobOnderwat | 8 | | Elli---Ethan | | Quinn | | | | | | Lots and | | lots of EQ-1 | | | ----------------------------- Refrigerators ------------ | | | | | | | RonFinn---Melinda Titus ToddC ElizabethJ---Gibson John alRob DennisLee | | | | | RobXXVIII | Galadon---Gretchen | | | | ------- ------------------ ---------------- | | | | | | | | Ael Eel----Lauren L.(3) | Arie Moskalik Mehaffy Steve-----Norm | | | Thomas | Abrams Silverfox | DavidStone | | | | ----- | | | | | | --------------------------- ------------------------------- | | | | | | | | | | Anthony S Sivar Andy C. | oldhouse Todd M. Frishcosy PaulFarris | | | | | | Daniel Demus | Michelin | | | | | | | ----------- | SteelBelted | | | | | | | | Mattias Sammuel | Ghostwheel | | Lidman Kleiner | | | | | WoodenShoes | | | | | --- | Lee-Ann-------------Mumaw | | | | RobinJim---Camilla Cracchiolo --------- Debra---Jonathan | | | | ------------------ Paul Tim---Sarah ------------- | | | Lang Lee | Coit | | | | | | | | | | | | | Jordan W-F. | | | Stiborek | Michael | Bunnybear | | Khedron Cockroach | | | | | | | Kafka James DavidBatty----------------Natasha | Lloyd | Henstridge Krafka Hill | Michael | | --------------------------------------- Nielsen---KarenMorrione Recluse | | | | | | | | | | | Keith | ------------ Michael Jake David Jeff Higginson | | | Mueller Fitch Stone Auman | | Pamela Bruce Courtenay---Katherine Basham---Baugh Footman | Westerman | | Jamie | Bowden --------------------------------------------------- | | | | | | | Ballantyne LeeSpires TimCHA95TS Wilkinson MikeBorg | aka | Viren GdL(4) | (m. Pam K.) | ------------------------------------ | | | | | BenMayers Daniel Val Kevin BillyHung Grisinger Williams Dow KEY --- FD: FAQ Dowager FQ: FAQueen *: Who surprises himself by converting to Judaism 2: Who surprises himself by converting to Confucianistic Taoist Buddhism and realizes he was twins with Judy and Erica in his past life and continues to be the twin of their soul. +: Twins ^: Triplets %: Result of one-night stand at a ren-fair; combination of shaw/morris .: Sibling in former life &: The Josh Entity (similar to the Borg, made up of numerous Joshes such as SecondYoungestWarder and Mahdi, et al) ~: Reputedly Adopted !: The Will Collective: less impressive than the Josh Entity or the Shaw/Morris Combo, but a collective nonetheless. ,: Weird brother/sister stuff. Read the books. PC Hodgell. Start with "Godstalk". ": Reputed to teach math--although this image is just a wee bit sick to me. #: In attempting to be overly Aiel-like, FireWalker and Andrea spent far too much time worrying about first-sisters, second-brothers, third-fathers, etc. In the confusion, they got married. Anyway, she always was his FAVORITE niece. $: Strange shadowy forge creature and resident metallurgist. ;: Also known as Buzz the Yellow Jacket `: We don't know who she is, but we know she's a bitch. /: Can you say "Oedipal Complex"? 1: NOT Peter Pratt, darn it! 3: Child Bride. ': Where there's a will, there are Ways. (Thanks FW) 4: Result of sperm donation. 8: Reborn. (1): Berelain is the First, of Noell. @: Spiritual Brothers in Acute Es. -- Karl-Johan Norén (Noren with acute e) -- kjnoren@hem3.passagen.se http://hem3.passagen.se/kjnoren/ - To believe people are as stupid as one believes is stupider than one can believe.